Third Party Validation

My business partner Shawn Coyne has a term that he can’t utter without personal and emotional abhorrence.

“Third party validation.”

He HATES it. He hates the very idea of it. When he sees it in others, he shakes his head. When he discovers even a glimmer within himself, he’s horrified and moves heaven and earth to eradicate it.

What is Third Party Validation?

3PV is the need for approval from someone else.

Be it said, all of us crave approval and validation. We’re human. Our DNA was formed over hundreds of thousands of years of evolution where survival meant life in the tribe, in the primitive hunting band, where exclusion from the group meant death.

It’s in our blood, the need for Third Party Validation. 

That doesn’t make it any less of a vice.

Can you read your own stuff and form an objective opinion? Can you screen your film and know which parts work and which don’t?

We can collaborate with editors and producers. We can listen deeply and heed their counsel. But in the end, we must develop our own nose for the truth.

The film director must have the final word on his picture. He and he alone must be the judge of when it’s ready for release to the world.

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15 Comments

  1. John Raisor on September 3, 2025 at 3:13 am

    Feedback from others helps us develop a more objective view. Helps us kill our darlings.



  2. FERNANDO BERDI on September 3, 2025 at 4:50 am

    Sim, sinto isso como uma luta permanente.
    Busco sempre o maior distanciamento possível da obra em construção para manter o espírito crítico. Difícil. Boa dica,
    Abraços



  3. Mia Sherwood Landau on September 3, 2025 at 4:57 am

    I am finding the need for third party validation is dissolving into the past now that I’m in my 70s. It is true freedom.



  4. Jackie on September 3, 2025 at 5:17 am

    Wise words, thank you. What I needed to hear.



  5. Maggie Hill on September 3, 2025 at 5:19 am

    3PV — I just posted it IN BIG LETTERS on my desk. Love it. Hate it. Do it. Gonna Stop Doing It. Hopefully.



  6. York on September 3, 2025 at 6:02 am

    I LOVE this.

    The first volume of my work is done. I believe in it; I think it can work. It’s not some false sense of security, some fake confidence. I’ve spent years studying the storytelling craft and honing my drawing skills. I’ve looked at other published works, better and worse, and thought “if this **** can make it, why can’t mine?”

    But in the commercial space the audience may or may not respond and I think that can drive the artist insane. It could hit, or it could miss.

    Ultimately we have to learn to trust ourselves.



  7. Eleanor on September 3, 2025 at 6:14 am

    Third party validation? How is there three when primarily there’s my editor and myself passing judgement on my writing? To answer your questions,I I believe I can be objective about my own writing. And I do recognize what works most of the time. That’s what I’ve been working towards. I have an editor to check out my work for anything I’ve missed as well as all the work to publish.



  8. Kate Stanton on September 3, 2025 at 6:32 am

    “Third Party Validation.

    That doesn’t make it any less of a vice.”

    Accepting all responsibility for your project’s success requires acceptance of a possible failure. We must DO IT ANYWAY. Do the work. Thank you for the truth bomb today, Steve!!



  9. Sam Luna on September 3, 2025 at 7:37 am

    This is one of those formative lessons I learned in high school and it’s great to see it reinforced here. I had joined the drama club and every time I said my line in whatever play we were rehearsing, I turned and looked to the teacher sitting in the audience. He took me to the side after and asked why I insisted on doing that. I said I didn’t know. He explained I was seeking approval: am I doing this right? Am I pleasing you? “Don’t EVER do that,” he said. He was dead serious. And it stuck with me.



    • Maureen Anderson on September 3, 2025 at 9:20 am

      How interesting! I love that it stuck, Sam. Kudos to both him and you 🙂



  10. Bill Evans on September 3, 2025 at 8:20 am

    I hope the lady with the killer heels on the bench didn’t have to walk too far for the photo. Lord!

    But to your point: the second skill one needs is to recognize the good crits, because you need them. Love yourself, and listen up.



  11. Jackie on September 3, 2025 at 12:52 pm

    I used to think ,”What if my mom reads this?” Not anymore. Sometimes the work needs the f-bomb. The work must tell the truth even if it’s uncomfortable. And I don’t apologize. Mom will get over it.😁



    • Bob on September 3, 2025 at 2:44 pm

      even if she needs to roll over a few times in her grave 🙂



  12. Bob on September 3, 2025 at 2:43 pm

    We all need mirrors as part of our development. That said, in order to move from self-development into self-actualization, letting go of a need for mirrors is mandatory. Who we really are is not the stuff that approval is made of.



  13. Marie on September 4, 2025 at 1:28 am

    this post hit home



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